Why I Can’t Stand With Phil Robertson

Phil Robertson of "Duck Dynasty"
Phil Robertson of “Duck Dynasty”

It has happened again. The social media world has blown up, dividing the country between those standing with Phil Robertson of “Duck Dynasty” fame, and those backing up A&E in their disciplining of him for his comments on homosexuality. It all started when GQ made public part of an interview with the reality TV star in which he was questioned on his beliefs about sin. Robertson, in his answer, mentioned homosexuality, paraphrased Corinthians, made a crass comment about the anatomy of the sexes, then tried to cover himself by clarifying that he really does love all people like Jesus would. When word got out, A&E quickly moved to place him on indefinite suspension from the show, on the grounds that his comments were offensive. Christians, many being ardent fans, rallied to his defense on social media with the call of “Stand with Phil Robertson”, making his cause into a bulwark for free speech and Christian values.

These defenders conveniently overlooking, of course, the fact that his comments actually were offensive.

I would like to preface the rest of my comments with the fact that I am a Bible-believing Christian who professes the Gospel and Name of Jesus Christ. I believe that it is Christ’s example that we must look to in how we Christians ought live our lives. I also believe that the Scriptures are clear that homosexuality is a sin, just as adultery, lying, greed and a number of other vices are. I believe that Christ can cover all these sins with grace, and that His gift is open to all who would receive it, regardless of what lifestyle they might live.

I also believe that Christians are called to be the “salt and light” of the world. As we share our faith and convictions with others, we must “let [our] speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that [we] may know how [we] ought to answer each person” (Colossians 4:6 ESV). It is here where I take exception with Phil Robertson, why I hesitate to stand with him, and why I caution my fellow Christians against leaping too hastily and vigorously to his defense.

It seems that many Christians have rallied behind Robertson solely based on the fact that he spoke out against homosexuality and is facing consequences for his words. This whole situation is similar to the controversy surrounding Dan Cathy’s personal beliefs on homosexuality. But whereas Cathy spoke without defaming homosexuals, simply sharing his own personal convictions, Robertson has engaged in vulgar and degrading humor directed at homosexuals. He may have started his remarks grounded in Scripture, and closed them with a half-hearted attempt to cover himself by saying that “we just love ‘em, give ‘em the good news about Jesus”, but these bookends cannot sponge away the bomb he dropped right in the middle of the conversation.

“It seems to me,” Robertson said, “a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking, ‘There’s more there! She’s got more to offer.’ I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

I ask the Christians so eagerly standing with Robertson how this speech is either gracious, seasoned with salt, or even remotely a good answer to a person living with homosexual desires. Is this “loving ‘em” or “giving ‘em the good news about Jesus”? No.  This is base mockery, a remark that will only drive a homosexual further from the redeeming power of Jesus Christ. Let us turn the tables. Imagine you are having a discussion with a homosexual friend. Over the course of the discussion, the topic of sexual attraction comes up. Your friend insults your attraction to the opposite gender, making crude references to anatomy and calling you “illogical”. Will this bring you any closer to understanding  your friend’s viewpoint? Of course not! If anything, it will either burn or weaken the bridges of friendship between you both. Is it not true that “a soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger” (Proverbs 15:1 ESV)?

Robertson’s comments were ill-advised and un-Christ-like, and thus I cannot support him. In fact, I find myself sympathizing with A&E for disciplining him for his comments. (Also, as an aside, under freedom of speech, A&E has just as much the right to keep Robertson off their channel as he does to state his opinions.) If Robertson had expressed his opinions on homosexuality concisely and respectfully, I would probably be supporting him right now. If he had paraphrased Scripture and left it at that, I might have applauded him. But he did not. When Christians rally in defense of an entertainer speaking disrespectfully and derisively of others, we are saying to the world “look at us, we are no different than the hateful and bigoted masses”. Perhaps, in so vehemently defending offensive behavior under the guise of supporting “free speech”, we are pushing fellow sinners who desperately need the cleansing blood of Christ further from that blessed fountain.

When Christ visited and ate with the prostitutes, the tax collectors, the adulterers and the rejected of society, He certainly did tell them to “sin no more”. But did He ever vulgarly mock their behavior, belittle them as “illogical”? Surely, if we look to His example, the example of the Son of God, we can find a better way to reach the homosexual community with the light of the Gospel. If anything, there has to be a more effective method than loudly supporting a reality TV star who spoke in such an unbridled and offensive manner.

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In light of the massive and unexpected response to this article, I have written a follow-up concerning some of the issues raised in the comments section. You can read this follow-up here.

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149 thoughts on “Why I Can’t Stand With Phil Robertson

  1. Seth Brake December 19, 2013 / 12:08 PM

    I had not followed the show, or the controversy, or the social media phenomenon. Thus, my initial assumptions were incorrect. Thanks for the perspective.

    • mark December 20, 2013 / 2:44 AM

      These defenders conveniently overlooking, of course, the fact that his comments actually were offensive. NO THEY WEREN’T OFFENSIVE. IF YOU FIND BIBLICAL QUOTES OFFENSIVE May I suggest your problem is NOT with Phil but with GOD. He said NOTHING HATEFUL ,NOTHING YOU SHOULD watch Phil speaking at Saddleback Church in SoCal many months BEFORE this. TELL ME WHERE YOU FIND THE HATE.

      • Kaitlin December 20, 2013 / 11:12 AM

        Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

        I don’t see a part in there that says a company does not have the right to fire/suspend an employee who does not reflect the image they wish. Phil may broadcast his views as much as he wants, but A&E will not let him do it across their platform. There is nothing illegal or even mildly infringing about that. His rights are being fully respected. If you’re going to try to fight this, I recommend you take a different approach.

        Your ad hominem attack on through “I suggest your problem is NOT with Phil but with GOD.” does little more than betray your excessive need to prove yourself right at any cause. It’s a crude form of argument, and as a fellow Christ follower, I ask you to calm down and to steal some slang, “Take a chill pill.”

        If someone walked up to a small child in a church and said the word “Vagina,” some people would find that crude. If you want to argue that that’s not, then good for you. It’s easy to look from the outside and deem something un-hateful. You’re not the target. Please take a step into the shoes of those we’re trying to reach. Find your empathy. Don’t just brush this off. Christ was a healer. It’s easy to stand behind a public figure who’s under fire for questionable statements. Personally, I think he should have organized what he was going to say further, as his opinions are controversial, and surely he knew they’d be met with oppression. He had the right to state them, but he should have had the wisdom to find the right words.

        The LGBT community will never see the light if we continue to bombard them with hate. They think they fight for love, what if we showed them what the love of Christ can do? We are to serve, not be served. We are to lower ourselves in humility. Just some things to think about.

      • Tim December 20, 2013 / 2:29 PM

        Really? Playing the “you have a problem with God” card? That’s awesome. You know who else played that game? The Pharisees. They could quote scripture all day long and often pulled this garbage with Christ. They knew the scriptures, but completely missed the heart of God in them.

        Fun fact: Christ found the pharisees offensive, and they accused him of not being from God because of it.

      • Loving Truth December 21, 2013 / 2:12 PM

        Kaitin, there is a clause in the constitution that does cover an employer and employees relationship regarding issues like this. I agree that Phil could have worded his statement differently but if you watch the show you will know Phil is plain spoken. He does not mince words. He has a good heart. His life does reflect the love he proclaims he has from his relationship with Jesus Christ.

        Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. SEC. 2000e-2. [Section 703]

        (a) Employer practices

        It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer –

        (1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

      • Alycia December 22, 2013 / 1:14 PM

        Could be the part comparing a vagina to a man’s anus, perhaps? I don’t understand how you failed to see that..

      • Ben December 22, 2013 / 2:48 PM

        One example where he tempered his speech does not undo the other. It was not support of the bible that drove him to make his remarks, but an admitted misunderstanding of how a man could like another man’s anus. Is that argument to be found in the Bible? Perhaps this isn’t offensive to you, but an empathetic ear finds this hurtful and ignorant. All of this, of course, is neglecting the disparaging comments made of blacks in the Jim Crow era.

      • Vicki December 26, 2013 / 3:51 PM

        I have to agree with you. He didn’t say what he said to be disrespectful but to be honest and logical. He’s right.

    • usnagrad1988 December 21, 2013 / 1:18 PM

      Eric, while your comments have merit, you are looking at this in a very myopic way. I too think that Phil could have used a bette choice in wording, but you are picking on the1% of what he said versus the entire context. He didn’t use “hate” speech and actually made sure to clarify those who were trying to take down a Christian brother, with questions they knew they could nail him on later (we are beyond the fact he shouldn’t have done the interview in the first place).
      People have posted comments about the Pharisees here and I’ll give you another take on that. Jesus said some very direct and attacking comments to them (white washed tombs and much more), to point out they weren’t following God’s commands. There are church denominations across America that have caved in to the gay agenda and now marry same sex people and ignore scripture in lieu of tolerance. If you go to GLAAD’s website, their agenda is to “change the culture,” through social media, Hollywood, TV, and public pressure. Yes, as Christians it is best to use wisdom in our responses, but we also don’t have to be doormats and passive so that our kids and grandkids see us laying down to culture instead of standing firm. Most Christians today are like the frog in the pot of slowly boiling water… by the time they wake up, it will be too late.

      I think it’s fine o council Phil on his choice of words, but his overall message was truth and that offends the current culture. Don’t side with the culture by being passive and wanting to come across “nice.”

      As far as those who say you can fire someone for having an opinion on their own time (not on the show). That’s not true. I think Phil could sue for being fired over his religious beliefs. I can’t fire a Muslim if he says he thinks women are sleazy who don’t cover themselves, just because I disagree with it. Even if he calls them sluts or whores. I’d have a huge lawsuit on my hands.
      This is about a gay agenda trying to take down a figurehead and make an example of him and let others know that if they speak up, then they will be taken down too. This is a minority activist group who doesn’t even watch the show. Stand firm, lock arms, and don’t back down.
      Thanks for your viewpoint and keep sharpening the iron!
      Eric, usnagrad1988

      • Vicki December 26, 2013 / 3:53 PM

        Thank you you are absolutely right. Jesus wasn’t always nicey nice. He said some pretty offensive things to the Pharisees as you point out. Such as den of vipers and whitewashed tombs filled with dead men’s bones.

    • Maria December 23, 2013 / 6:58 PM

      Maybe they were in need of offending………………………………………………………..

    • Maria December 23, 2013 / 7:04 PM

      Maybe they were in need of offending, If you are offended, it is not always the other person in the wrong. You just maybe the one on the wrong side of the fence. Passive comments like, just let them be gay and love them, are the comments that let their voice be heard that gay is OK.

  2. Becky December 19, 2013 / 2:39 PM

    Since when is saying anatomical body parts “crude and offensive”? Am I now no longer allowed to say nose or elbow because they could affen someone who doesn’t have them? Vagina is hardly an offensive word, it’s the physiological body part god gave me, same as anus. Geez, he would Have had less push back if he said dick And pussy. Come on get real..

    • Luke Brake December 19, 2013 / 4:12 PM

      To answer your question, some anatomical body parts have been “crude and offensive” since Enkidu threw the rump of the Bull of Heaven at Ishtar. There are ways of discussing things that are tactful, and ways that are not. The way this was presented was not.

    • Dan Gilbert December 20, 2013 / 1:20 AM

      Good for you. An ignorant man, Eric can only say ignorant things.

      • Kaitlin December 20, 2013 / 11:16 AM

        You know what will probably help? Namecalling! Let’s disrupt the body of Christ even more with some of that stuff! Awesome job guys! 🙂

        I am so sick and tired of your generation screwing things up for mine. Most of my friends think Christ is a joke because of the way you act, not just outside the body, but inside as well. Show some respect.

    • Vicki December 26, 2013 / 3:54 PM

      Considering the kind of language we hear on TV today and no one seems to think a thing of it, Phil didn’t say a thing wrong and he used the proper names for body parts not some slang.

  3. K. Collins December 19, 2013 / 3:01 PM

    The issue is not what he said, but that he is being discriminated against because he said it. When this happens, we start down a very slippery slope regarding the First Amendment and freedom of speech. Plenty of people who don’t agree with what Phil said are supporting him because of this principle. It is a bigger issue than just bein offended by his comments.

    • Luke Brake December 19, 2013 / 4:14 PM

      We should certainly make sure people have a right to free speech, but it is important to keep in mind that this was not governmental action. A&E has a right to censor what they want under the First Amendment.

      • Shannon December 19, 2013 / 10:11 PM

        And as Americans we have a right to boycott A&E going forward!

      • Christina December 20, 2013 / 2:03 AM

        Freedom of speech is not limited to anything with the government. Actually, it does not matter if what he said is perceived as “crude and offensive” because the first amendment actually does support such. The only thing the first amendment doesn’t affect is hate speech, which some people are doing in this controversy all over social media. It does not matter whether or not he thinks it is fine for a man to like vagina or a man to like it in the anus. What happened was the LGBTQ got offended because what they believed in was not the same as what this man does. A&E suspended him because the LGBTQ called and complained and had a fit, not because they did not agree with it. A&E should not silence a man just because others got offended because their beliefs were not supported and that is why I DO stand behind Phil Robinson. It has nothing to do with liking or disliking homosexuals. It is a case of standing up for what is right and what he believes to be right. That is why he said “to him.”

      • mark December 20, 2013 / 3:02 AM

        read your constitution and then read what is happening to it.There is NO stipulation IN the Constitution that states YOUR opinion MUST be mine .NOR is there written anywhere in the Constitution that IF my opinion differs from yours that makes me a hater. EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY HAS A RIGHT TO EXPRESS HIS OPINION ,and EVERYONE in this country has a right to disagree. YOU and I do not know what the contracted agreement was with the Robertsons and so…to asume as you have ,that Phil violated those terms and is DUE his punishment is as presumptuous as I find MOST leftist opinion. I have seen video of Phil speaking here and there in Churches.He speaks of sin,he speaks of how we ALL sin and he speaks of the resolution of this sinful state as is prescribed by his beliefs. I have not found in ANY of his speakings a hateful word. He speaks AGAINST things that the Bible says are wrong,but he does it because HE believes,as do I , that EVERYONE should know that we are ALL wrong and we ALL need Christ as our savior. You can disagree,but if WE are right ? I’ve never met you I don’t hate you and I would not promote any hateful action against ANYONE. I believe you are entitled to YOUR OPINION and YOUR RIGHT to EXPRESS IT PUBLICLY. phil also has that right. if not we should ALL be very afraid of where the winds will blow and what will be popular next week. Sooner or later we will ALL be on the unpopular side.

      • Jes December 20, 2013 / 3:39 PM

        Actually, Christina… it IS limited to the government. And I quote: “Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom of speech.”

        If he was under arrest right now for his beliefs, then it would be a first amendment issue. But he’s not. And it’s not. A&E has the right to act how they please following his comments. Unless, of course, you’re in favor of the governmental control of privately owned business?

      • Sabrina December 21, 2013 / 3:41 AM

        to Jes, Lol seriously you are bringing up business to constitutional? A&E doesn’t own their souls, and I am pretty sure that the Robertsons made sure of that. Two… Yeah we don’t know their agreement for the show, BUT His comments werent made on the show. They were made for an article by a completely different Business. Who didn’t have a problem writing on the comments by Phil in the interview. An interview indicates, he was asked questions that lead to answers. So therefore, the interviewer knew where to go with his questions in order to get the comments he wanted. I am sure it was pretty relaxed if Phil was as forward as he was about his silly remarks. And thats all it was. Silly. No what if he doesn’t get what it is like to be Gay. Not many gay men do either at the beginning, middle and some still dont get why they feel the way they do. Its for them to figure it out, but I personally disagree that if phil spoke on his beliefs, rather it was tactful or not. It shouldnt be a definition character, when his character has been pretty maintained thru most of the show. As we all experience in our growing lives, we have all stepped out of character on occasions that have been embarrassing or inappropriate, or even offensive. But as for deciding that he didnt have free speech because business comes first… lets just leave that comment out.. its just dumb to be honest. Unless you have their contract.. we shouldnt even sit here and pretend, that A&E has rights over freedom of Speech. Or Freedom to express views on sin however he sees fit. I have hear preachers Speak harsher about this topic and other sins. Cause point is.. We don’t know out end days… and sometimes we need Harsh truth to set us free. You may not agree and thats cool… I don’t agree completely with how he spoke on the matter, but its done.. its said.. and is it really that hateful? umm no.. he wasnt bashing.. he was expressing (its a sin) and well he just doesnt get it. yeah nothing wrong with that.

    • Lisa December 20, 2013 / 8:43 AM

      In regards to the first amendment, A&E has just as much of a right to not support his comments! That is the whole basis of free speech. The point that every one is missing, is the bigger issues going on in this country. And Christians love to boast themselves up like they are better than the next human! That’s cowardly and just plain ignorant. The very things Jesus stood for people are literally making a mockery of. Also there are people out there making a mockery of this country and it’s sickening. People need to come together and stop fighting one another.

    • Tim December 20, 2013 / 3:48 PM

      His freedom of speech isn’t being violated. He was free to say whatever he wanted to. Freedom of speech does not mean that there are not still consequences for poorly chosen words.

    • Pu-239 December 23, 2013 / 8:39 PM

      He is not being discriminated against. Whenever an employee projects an image of his company that the company does not want, he may be fired or disciplined in whatever way is seen fit. Let’s say I report the news. Now let’s say I do a broadcast in black face and make a number of insensitive remarks throughout it. Don’t you think the company I work for has every right to fire me? Of course they do. I have freedom of speech, but I have to live with the consequences. Same guess for this guy.

  4. SaraJ December 19, 2013 / 3:21 PM

    Talking about anatomy is not vulgar. People refer to their vasectomy, ‘tubes being tied’, sex life, etc all the time. Why are beliefs less shareable than our most intimate moments and parts of our body. The Robertsons are well known for being very direct and accurate in their speech. Where some would have been tactful, others would consider it weak. You can’t win when people judge based on what they would do. It comes back to what God said to do. One culture is different from another in what is acceptable. For someone who deals with farm animals all the time mating and reference to anatomy is a basic conversation. Phil was asked about sin. He stated his beliefs and opinions. Sports people say AND DO wrong things and are excused. Entertainers disgust and shock us with immoral behaviour and we STILL WATCH and BUY their things. Phil states his beliefs with his type of conversation and is Misquoted, the butt of censure, and attacked. Regardless of his actions or statements about love and respect is different from agreeing. Paul was stoned for speaking Truth, Jesus crucified, Phil censured. It is the natural result of sharing truth to a world that does not want to hear it. If it bothers you, you must question your belief. Is it a feel good crutch or a relationship with the creator who is sinless?

    • Eric Marcy December 19, 2013 / 5:05 PM

      I certainly do not think that certain things (such as the sexual life) should not be discussed, nor should Christians be silent on issues such as homosexuality. However, there is a time, a place, and also a *way* in which we are to speak the truth in love. With his comments jokingly referring to human anatomy, Phil seemed to want to paint homosexuals as foolish for their attraction, whereas he was not, being straight. I would not consider this to be loving, and Scriptures tell us that whatever we do, if we have not love, we are like a clanging cymbal/gong. Speaking in the manner that he did, I think, undoes the loving heart of the truth he was attempting to convey. I certainly agree with you that faith must not be simply a crutch, but instead should permeate every aspect of our lives, even the way in which we speak the truth. God bless!

      • Patrick December 20, 2013 / 3:13 PM

        I think that Phil’s comments as you discuss them are more reflective of his sort of southern heritage, and him perhaps trying to hard to be hip with and keep his discussion on the level of his GQ interviewers. In a sense, he is saying little more than Paul was when Paul appealed to the evidence of nature that is suppressed. His way of saying it needs work but the idea that he was doing it to make is, I believe, a leap in your judgment that goes beyond what you are entitled to judge. I do like you articulation though

  5. Jess December 19, 2013 / 3:43 PM

    My dear man, I am glad you get it. I am glad someone understands what the media is doing, and how Christian protests are hurting the world rather than loving the world. When I was a lesbian, when Christians would rally together over bashful statements because a famous christian said it, I would literally hate the Christians, church, and God so much. I thought Christians hated me, and thought less of me because of the way God made me. I knew only from what i seen through actions. It was only through personal fear of not getting to heaven because I was made gay that I gave myself over to Jesus. It was through the internet that I seen it was possible, and shown that anyone is accepted if they just believe that Jesus is savior. Every day he changes me to become more like him, and my struggles with homosexuality become less of a struggle but it still remains. This is how I was made. It kills me to see what, we as the church are showing the wrong. Jesus came to down as the “Son of God” love us until the wrong was fix. He never once protested what was wrong. He just become the the love that was missing in the wrong until it was right again.

    • Eric Marcy December 19, 2013 / 4:56 PM

      I thank you so much for sharing your story! I am holding back tears right now as I write this, it has been such an encouragement to read. I am so glad that Christ has shown you His love and that nothing could keep you from it! That truly is one tragic thing I see happening in the Church today, as certain sinners are ostracized and looked down on more than others. No, we are *all* sinners who have fallen short of the glory of God, and we should all be extending love and forgiveness to one another just as Christ did. I will be praying for you, my dear sister in Christ, that God will continue to show His love to you!

      • ketch20too December 19, 2013 / 10:03 PM

        Thanks for sharing Jess. It is only man who quantifies sin..this one is worse than that one…this one can be overlooked that one will damn you to hell immediately…sin is sin and there will be no sin in heaven. Only through the cleansing blood of Jesus can we wash it away and be reconciled to God. Stay strong and keep seeking His face. God bless you both

    • Nadine Bennett December 29, 2013 / 11:15 PM

      I just want to say that God didn’t make any of us sinners. We were born in sin because of Adam’s fall from Grace. We are all born liars and murders etc.with fallen natures ( which certainly contains homosexuality) We are not taught that we should be accepting of those sins, we must struggle against our sin..whatever it is. It is not bashing to speak the truth. Sometimes the Truth hurts and no one really wants to be rebuked, especially when we love our sin.

  6. Daisy December 19, 2013 / 3:46 PM

    The last time I checked we still have the right to express ourselves in this country – that is a right every American has and it was bought with the blood of many who have died defending our Consttution & Bill of Rights. The things Phil expressed were HIS opinion and HIS values and he IS within HIS rights to say them. They were not said in A&E’s venue, they were not said on the show. They have no right to persecute him for saying HIS opinions.

    Haven’t you realized by now that these very opinions and values are what draws us to watch Duck Dynasty? Because WE identify with the Robinsoons and their beliefs? We are sick and tired of having the gay agenda rammed down our throats when it IS sinful and perverse. We are sick and tired of “offending” everyone with stating the truth – grow some skin and realize that if you choose to live an abhorrent lifestyle you’re going to hear comments you might not like. Get over it.

    A & E needs to reinstate Phil immediatley so they don’t cut their nose to spite their face – what lunatic suspends the star of the #1 cable show in history at the demand of idiotic, whiney gays? Whatever happened to all the “tolerance” we’re supposed to give the gays? Don’t they (and you) know it goes both ways????

    • Eric Marcy December 19, 2013 / 5:12 PM

      I would agree with you that it does “go both ways” as you said, but I would like to point out that if you insist A&E cannot make choices on who they employ and what they air, then neither can we as Christians. As a private company, they have the right to choose who and what they support, just as Christians have the right to choose who and what they support in their own companies. If you say A&E shouldn’t be able to suspend Phil for his opinions on homosexuality, then you are saying Chickfila doesn’t have the right to support traditional family value organizations over those that support homosexuality.
      Also, I would hope you would reconsider referring to gays as “idiotic” and “whiney”. If we hope for an America of decency and respect, we must extend both decency and respect. Thank you for your thoughts! God bless!

      • Ken O'Kelley December 19, 2013 / 8:31 PM

        Eric, you wrote, “As a private company, they have the right to choose who and what they support, just as Christians have the right to choose who and what they support in their own companies.”

        A&E has chosen to silence Phil from their show. And we agree that this is their right. Yet it is incorrect to hold the position that the Christians are getting equal play.

        New Mexico’s highest court ruled against a photographer there who declined to photograph a lesbian couple’s wedding. Under the New Mexico Human Rights Act, it’s unlawful for a public accommodation to refuse to offer its services to someone because of the person’s sexual orientation. So the photographer in New Mexico had her rights of religious freedom stripped away. Though the lesbian easily found another photographer to photograph her wedding – the lesbian filed a complaint with the New Mexico Human Rights Commission. The commission ruled that Elane Photography had engaged in sexual orientation discrimination, which is prohibited by state law. The photography company was ordered to pay $6,637.94 in attorney’s fees to the lesbian couple.

        So today we see a growing anti-Christian sentiment and double standard in this land.

      • Chris G December 21, 2013 / 11:24 AM

        This response is actually for Ken O’Kelley.

        The court’s response wasn’t anti-Christian, it was anti-hate. Period. Think about how many people would be discriminated against on a daily basis if that sort of behavior was allowed. I believe the freedom to practice religion is important but it has NO place in politics and law. People are killed every day in other countries for doing things like speaking their opinions. Because religion governs law.

        If the photographer had refused to photograph a black couple because of her religious beliefs, would you still side with her or would you side with the courts that said she was wrong? Or if a Muslim photographer didn’t want to photograph a Christian couple, think of how outraged the country would be unless the courts sided with the Christian couple.

        Anti-discrimination laws were created to keep people from using their personal beliefs to make others feel alienated or abused. Religious belief is a personal choice that should not be used to as a basis to discriminate against others who do not hold the same beliefs, especially in business.

    • kriddle22 December 21, 2013 / 11:03 AM

      Are you serious? “We” are sick and tired of the “gay agenda”? I guess I didn’t realize gay people weren’t actually people but an inanimate force plotting doom and destruction on us all.

      You are preaching a poisonous doctrine. See how many flies you catch with words like “idiotic, whiney gays.” These are the exact kinds of things that pushed me and many others from my generation away from the Church.

      Oh, and I absolutely do NOT support Phil’s views but enjoyed the show quite a bit. Didn’t know I had to be a staunch Christian with hateful “values” to enjoy a funny show about a normal family. Viewers of the show are not your personal army.

  7. 60guilders December 19, 2013 / 4:02 PM

    I can’t say as I really think much of either party, really. I don’t find Robertson’s statements particularly crass–crude, perhaps, but they’re not the same thing. I do, however, find them to be far too easily soundbited, taken out of context, and imprudent.
    I also think that if A&E didn’t see something like this coming, they’re idiots.

    • Eric Marcy December 19, 2013 / 5:39 PM

      Indeed, it *is* hard to imagine A&E not foreseeing something like this happening. A strange situation all around for sure…

  8. Robert Cleversy December 19, 2013 / 4:17 PM

    I watched the episode where Phil talked the birds and bees with his grandson using a crawfish as an example. He went right to the point of showing the crawfish’s penis and how it was supposed to be used on the female. It was good to see a grandfather talk face to face with his grandson in a way that was caring yet firm that this is the way things work. I cannot count the number of times I’ve heard a sermon on Sunday morning and someone in the congregation didn’t like the tone or disagreed on a finer Biblical ideas. It seems that Christians tend to be tougher on other Christians when it comes to Bible. I stand behind Phil not because I agree or disagree with him but because if other Christians do not stand up with each other, who will? Phil’s words, although harsh to others was something that needed to be said for a long time now…we don’t agree with your life style. I have yet to see one member of GLAAD say, “Phil had the right to say what he said.” Jesus showed love, mercy and lead a path for all Christians but we are all warned of the consequences of sin. The Book of Corinthians is strong reading and certainly harsh words for all sinners. It is between Phil and God to know if he was mocking homosexuals or simply being himself. I am not here to judge him but stand behind him at a time when non-Christians have spilled vile and hateful comments toward him and his family.

    • Eric Marcy December 19, 2013 / 5:47 PM

      Thank you for your respectful and sincere response! I certainly agree with you that Christians are to speak the truth, and sometimes we are to speak it bluntly. And certainly, if Phil had simply spoken the honest Biblical truth on the matter, I would agree. But he added his own spin on Scripture in a fashion that was mocking and degrading towards anyone who might struggle with homosexual desires. It is not the desires and temptations themselves that are sin, for we all struggle with tendencies towards things such as greed or dishonesty, for example, and Phil seemed to degrade those struggling with a particular temptation. That is where my problem is. By no means do I want to demonize him. However, we cannot ignore the reality that his comments went beyond simply hard truth to actively putting down others. God bless!

      • John Wilham December 20, 2013 / 3:25 AM

        Eric. I would agree that we need to be respectful in our conversations with those who struggle with homosexuality. However, sometimes Jesus (and St. Paul as evident in Corinthians – not to mention John Baptist with Herod) had to use more direct and cutting statements to “wake up” the souls of those who “embrace” sinful behavior. I believe this is what Mr. Johnson was speaking to. Maybe it his statements could be taken as mockery and hurtful, however, I do not believe this was his intention. We must remember Mr. Johnson is not a scripture scholar nor an intellectual and what is interesting is that his ordinary language was actually quite profound in addressing the crux of the issue that homosexuality is against the natural law. Yes, may rustle some feathers, but that may not be a bad thing — many times grace stings at first…. given, as long as its not disrespectful. However, Mr. Johnson’s statement needs to be taken in context of the man and who he is — this is how “red necks” speak and as his follow statement indicated, he has no intention of being disrespectful. If he would have said gays are “idiots” or “jerks” or “terrorists” — yes, that would have been unchristian. But even if he would have said they are “foolish” who “embrace” sinful homosexual behavior, that would actually be a biblical way to speak of sin. thank you Eric for forming this discussion – God bless you!

  9. John December 19, 2013 / 4:54 PM

    Why do you judge this man on his manner his education or the way he expresses himself? If you spoke to a person who speaks broken english. A person that knew enough to make his point. Would your position be becuase he did not use the verbage I would have used he must be wrong. Your narrow minded view comes to the defense of sinners who need to hear the word of God. Robertsons position is sharing what the Bible says and that Gays are confused in choosing that life style. How can you call yourself christian if you choose to judge another christian? Gays are wrong in their lifestyle they are sinning and as christians we want better for them but you cant make them choose jesus christ as their personal savior. And those that call themselves christian and continue to sin are wrong in the eyes of God.

    • Eric Marcy December 19, 2013 / 5:53 PM

      In no way am I judging him on his education, I said nothing of the sort, and God forgive me if I am! Though the manner in which he expressed his opinion on this issue I think was divisive and inflammatory, unnecessarily so. As Christians we are called to uphold one another, but we are also to hold each other accountable, and that is what I am trying to do with Robertson’s remarks, as well as strive to portray true Christianity. We are all sinners, we all face temptations, and there is no reason to make a particular group of people feel guiltier than the rest of us for their particular struggles and tendencies. God bless!

  10. Daniel T. December 19, 2013 / 5:23 PM

    Eric,

    What a brilliant article. You are one of my favorite bloggers to read and I agree with what you’ve said here. Robertson’s comments were vulgar and inflammatory, even if they were correct. Robertson spoke the truth, but not in a spirit of reconciliation and compassion. He has the courage, but not the compassion and one without the other results in problems.
    A&E has the right to pull a controversial show off the air if they’d like to. It’s their call. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech and everything to do with a company getting to enforce their own code of what’s acceptable to say and not to say and avoiding negative publicity.

    • Eric Marcy December 19, 2013 / 5:56 PM

      Thank you for your comment Daniel! I agree! The Gospel is so beautiful because it is so perfectly balanced between extremes of life. I certainly agree that Robertson got a bit unbalanced in his expression of truth. God bless!

    • Jezzi December 21, 2013 / 9:24 PM

      I disagree that his comments were inflammatory. That suggests premeditation. He does not strike me as someone who sits there and thinks of ways to make people angry. On the contrary, he was stating what the bible says about sin, and explaining it in his viewpoint. There was nothing wrong with what he said, and not really anything wrong with how he said it.

  11. Madeleine P December 19, 2013 / 5:50 PM

    Great article… I think Robertson’s beliefs are spot on, however the manner in which he expressed them was crass, undignified and clearly offensive.

    • Eric Marcy December 19, 2013 / 6:04 PM

      Exactly! Thanks for the reply!

  12. Eric Charles Marcy December 19, 2013 / 6:01 PM

    Dear Son, ” if your heart is wise, then my heart will be glad; my inmost being will rejoice when your lips speak what is right.” Proverbs 23:15&16. You have spoken (written) well. Stay the course Eric!! Love, Dad

  13. Kathy m December 19, 2013 / 6:16 PM

    If Phil had bragged on the homosexual and put down the Christian ,we would not have heard about it at all. This is what the world has come to. I’m a Christian an I stand with Robertson

  14. Jacob December 19, 2013 / 6:35 PM

    I will say, and I do so with much trepidation, that what Mr. Robertson (who, by the way, none of us are on first name basis with, so stop calling him Phil) said is not — at its core — wrong. The Proverbs are clear that sin is the ultimate foolishness, and what was said, albeit untactful as it is, is still true. “It’s just not logical” was the point of the statement, and I have to say that it remains true that sin is illogical. By no means am I saying that everything Mr. Robertson says or does is right, and I am far from a fan of the show, but I cannot quite agree on his comments being “base mockery.” I do not believe that he said that and then laughed at the silly homosexuals. As far as A&E’s actions go, I don’t care. They have the right to show and censor as they please and if they want to be politically correct, they can. I wish they would just spare us of all of this reality show foolishness and cancel every one of them on their network. Of course, that would mean that they would have to engineer a totally new line-up.

    • slcromer December 19, 2013 / 11:50 PM

      I agree Proverbs is very clear that sin is illogical and Mr. Robertson is not one to mock people. He is an extremely blunt and truthful in what he says, at least from what I’ve seen on the show so his comments while maybe more harsh than they should have been were well in line with scripture. Also I believe that his comments about loving everyone no matter their lifestyle were NOT a half-hearted attempt at cushioning the hurt or however you may wish to phrase it. As for A&E they definitely have a right to freedom of speech just as Phil Robertson does BUT I stand by him because I believe that A&E and liberals and politicians in general have a double standard going on. That double standard is that they claim to support freedom of speech, individuality, etc. but in reality its really only as long as you agree with their views on issues and society. We need to promote honest discussion among society without getting all out of line over one tiny comment. People are far too often either a) too easily offended by the Bible, which I praise God that it’s offensive because how else would he convict us of our sins? OR b) act offended/hurt by a comment to simply gain 15 minutes of fame in the media.

    • Eric Marcy December 20, 2013 / 12:51 PM

      In a sense I think you’re right, that sin is “illogical”. Where I take issue is how Mr. Robertson framed his remarks, comparing homosexual desires to his own sexual desires as if his are completely logical. We are all victims of “illogical” sinful desires, but it could appear that Robertson is putting down homosexual struggles as even more ridiculous than others. I think this ties in with the mockery issue too… even if he did not mean it as a specific mockery, that is how it is received, and perception, for better or for worse, is everything. All the best!

  15. Andrew Soerens December 19, 2013 / 6:38 PM

    Should he have made those comments? Probably not. They weren’t the best way to represent Christ to the world or to that group.

    HOWEVER, should he be FIRED because he comments were offensive? I would hazard a guess that many, many, people who have made crass comments have not been fired. His firing is entirely because the crass comments were directed toward a protected class and it’s not politically correct to say ANYTHING negative about homosexuals.

    He is NOT being kicked out because his words were not “seasoned with grace.” He’s being targeted because of the group he offended. You can offend Christians all day long and not suffer backlash, but not homosexuals. That is why I DO stand with him. I don’t defend his words but his belief which is what is actually being targeted. If A&E begins disciplining those that offend Christians I will reconsider.

    That said, Christians please use WISDOM when speaking on this or any controversial subject. We’re not going to win folks over with crass comments or belligerent outcries, but with reasoned arguments, sound interpretation of scripture, and lots of love and grace. Be bold. Be strong. But also be wise.

    • Jessica December 19, 2013 / 9:15 PM

      “Be bold. Be strong. But also be wise.” Exactly. Phil did all those things but one.

    • Jeni December 22, 2013 / 12:18 AM

      I completely agree. Christ called us to love. But God is also jealous and vengeful. I think people often forget that. It feels better to think that God is always a loving God and that is not the case.

  16. Jessica December 19, 2013 / 9:13 PM

    AMEN & AMEN!!!!!! You so eloquently said what I have been trying to say! He turned away many homosexuals from Christ.

    • Patrick December 20, 2013 / 3:17 PM

      I disagree Jessica, what turns homosexuals away from Christ is their hatred of Christ – that is what turns all sinners away from Christ. Phil is not responsible for their turning from Christ anymore than he is responsible for anyone that becomes a Christian due to his many good works. These are the grace of God in a person.

  17. Samuel December 19, 2013 / 10:13 PM

    I personally do think that the way Phil Robertson described his feelings towards homosexuality was harsher and could have been dealt with better. That I agree with, but here is the problem as I see it, many people have forgotten exactly WHO they were asking this question, they were asking a Christian man, who is most likely to be against homosexuality based on his beliefs, and is Phil Robertson, who is a very outspoken man on what he believes and won’t “sugarcoat” what he says and what he means by it. People are mostly missing the point that that is just his own character, as if I were to say the same thing but my character was of a much calmer mood, I would say it differently then anyone else would. Also, it is very ridiculous to put such a burden on him and his family, millions of people speak out in worse ways then this against homosexuality. I will use the Westboro Baptist Church as an example, they use the term “FAG” to state a person of homosexuality, and very few people will do anything against them, but when Phil Robertson here does one thing that the people may not agree with or is considered “wrong” he is immediately punished for it. Also, he was asked a very direct question on his opinion, and they wanted an answer, from a the Christian man of Phil Robertson, they should have expected that kind of response when asking his own personal beliefs on the matter. He has the right of freedom of speech and freedom of religion, so he can say what he wants and believe what he wants, and should not have that taken away from him by a television company just to avoid a loss of profit. I stand by Phil Robertson because personally, he did what many Christians have wanted to do for so long, but never could speak out, he did and said that he didn’t mean for it to be in a hateful way, he meant it to be just stating what was on his mind and in his heart, nothing wrong with that. So I can understand why many people would be against what he said, but I support him because of the fact that he spoke out for what he believed.

    • Eric Marcy December 20, 2013 / 12:57 PM

      It is true that it’s hard to believe that GQ and A&E didn’t see this coming… on the Westboro issue with “fag”, I would say the reason we hear very little about them (compared to this sort of issue) is that they are pretty universally considered to be so outrageous in their hatred and bigotry that society has delegated them to the fringe (thankfully).
      As far as what he meant, his manner of speaking vs. how it was received, I do understand your point. Unfortunately, perception is everything in communication. I can really really mean something all I want, but if I cannot communicate it to you effectively, it means nothing. God bless!

  18. SarahJ December 19, 2013 / 10:52 PM

    I would like to point out Phil’s comments have been presented OUT OF CONTEXT and blown out of proportion to what was being communicated. Have you read the GQ article??? The writer is MUCH more offensive and crass than Phil. Phil was asked about sin, while hunting, in the woods… If you have seen the show, you know the Robertsons get directly to the point (crawfish, birds and bees, etc). The content was in line with direct communication. Body parts are not crass or crude. Disrespectful mention of those things is crass or crewd (slang references, mockery, etc). He DID NOT say he hated anyone or EQUATE homosexuality with anything. He communicated a list of things, or if you need to stretch it, a group of sinful things (read the article). I am still waiting for the multiple partner sex and bestiality backlash… 😉
    Phil ALSO said, to paraphrase, He does not Judge who reaches heaven or hell. His job is to love people and tell them about Jesus. He does not disrespect people because they are different.
    Several people have talked about WISE Christians do this or dont do that…um how do you know that? God never talked about softening your view of sin to avoid offending someone. He is holy and hates sin. He wants and loves us. You can love someone and disagree with their beliefs, actions, etc. Love does not equal avoiding truth. The culture people are raised in generally influences communication style. From personal experience, Christians in the city from gang backgrounds communicate very differently from suburb upper class priveleged Christians.
    This has been strategized to move an agenda forward. Do some research on homosexual activist agendas. This was perfect timing for the Sochi Russia issues.
    Controversy equals awareness and money. Just ask Miley Cyrus. We watch in ‘horror’. Yet we watch and talk about it. Money in the bank. Difference here is she is celebrated (show me a solid media or activist group attack…) is Phil is attacked because he said we can’t do whatever we want cause God said so….oops.

    • wordprocessor December 20, 2013 / 2:16 PM

      Sarah J, I just want to agree with your comments about things being taken out of context. I read the article, too. The interview was horribly offensive in my opinion and really seemed very derogatory about Christianity in general…of course, that is to be expected of such a magazine.

      As I read your comment, I thought of Peter and how offensive he could be at times. I thought also of the other disciples. Jesus has to correct them at times (when they went awry, as we all can and do), but He never stopped walking with them. I don’t think we need to “stand with” or “stand against” Phil Robertson, but we are called to walk alongside him as a member of the body of Christ. I think we have to be very careful in judging other Christians in this way.

      • wordprocessor December 20, 2013 / 2:17 PM

        I want to clarify…The person doing the GQ interview was offensive. That is what I meant by the article being offensive. He cussed and made quite a few negative, mocking remarks about Christianity (and the Robertsons).

  19. Mike December 19, 2013 / 11:26 PM

    Please vagina and anus are medical accepted terms , you fail to understand your Bible , we hate the sin love the sinner , but sin is sin, and it wasn’t candy coated by Jesus when he saw it ie turning over the the money tables …Jesus was down right POed so Christians should not Candy coat it now the acting out of the homosexual lifestyle is and always will be a sin…….I am sure Gods response to the acts offended a few in Sodom and Gomorrah now didn’t it…and I guess you have no issue with contraception and divorce either

    • Eric Marcy December 21, 2013 / 3:05 PM

      With all due respect, sir, divorce has been a tragic thing that has impacted my family and I quite personally, and I have felt and seen its stinging repercussions. I do have an issue with it.
      All the best!

  20. Barry Duggan December 19, 2013 / 11:31 PM

    Romans 1– please, read it.
    Isaiah 5:20-21– please read it.
    The Lord hates the sin, but loves the sinners. But FIRST they must repent and turn FROM their sin in order to restore a beautiful relationship with Him. There is no embracing of this sin. None.
    You are either saved from death, hell, and the grave or you are not.
    Please, let us be crystal clear about this or we are leading the lost down the wrong path and do not deserve to call ourselves Christians.
    We are talking about real people who have messed-up, dangerous lives here. Not hypothetically.
    These are real people whom the Lord loves just as much as He loves you and me.
    We will be held accountable for their eternal lives if we as in Romans 5:20, call evil good and good evil. Phil means well. Do you? Are you at all concerned about a lost person’s soul?
    Is this about political correctness? Ego?
    I think it is time for some younger folks to grow up and put on Dad’s shoes– Walk the walk !
    Walk the Lovewalk. Speak truth in Love. Speak truth with toughlove if need be.
    No more wimpy non-Christian poor behavior. Grow up.

    • Eric Marcy December 20, 2013 / 1:04 PM

      Indeed, I agree! We must call people to repentance. But I would maintain there is a better way to express the love and grace of Christ to people than the manner in which Phil did. I certainly do care for the lost person’s soul. In fact, that is why I wrote this article, because I believe that Christians can reach out in more effective ways! It has nothing to do with political correctness, for we must continually ask ourselves “do we now persuade men or God?” I believe that there is a more loving way to reflect the Gospel in the way that God intended it.
      And I would hesitate to call attempts to reach the lost through building bridges “wimpy non-Christian poor behavior”. God bless!

    • Shan December 21, 2013 / 2:12 AM

      Well said. Lets not “water down” Christianity.

  21. eric glass December 20, 2013 / 1:40 AM

    The bible says being homosexual is an abomination which cannot be repent. Therefore this article is irrelevant. If you’re gonna claim to be a true Christian, then you need to follow God’s words and not your own.

    • Arthur December 20, 2013 / 10:57 AM

      I am almost certain that is not an accurate statement. From the bible, yes, homosexuality is an abomination (so are dishonest scales – Pro 11:1).

      However, the only sin from which one cannot repent is rejecting God’s sin offering (Jesus), and that is not because God will not forgive the sinner but because God will accept no other offering as payment for sin.

      • Jes December 20, 2013 / 3:50 PM

        Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is the only sin you can’t repent from.

        And Eric’s statement there is one of the big problems with Christians in the USA today. We have decided to make up our own hierarchy of sins. A murderer in prison can be brought to Christ, but a woman who had an abortion is condemned forever. A man who cheats on wife multiple times can repent, but a homosexual is condemned to hell. None of this hierarchy is Biblical, it’s POLITICAL. And that is why we experience so much growing hatred toward Christians now. We’ve turned the merciful love of Christ into a series of political lobbyist actions.

        God forgive us.

    • lindylouabbott December 20, 2013 / 4:25 PM

      Eric glass, you have not been taught Biblically correct salvation theology. Only “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is the unforgivable sin because blasphemy of the Holy Spirit it the actual rejection of the conviction and witness of the Holy Spirit to an individual showing him/her that Jesus is God/LORD/Savior. All sins — let me say this strongly — ANY all every sin committed against God was died for when Jesus hung on the cross. God’s forgiveness and grace is sufficient to cover ALL (unlimited amount) of sins and any kind of sin EXCEPT for the REJECTION of Jesus as LORD and Savior. Homosexuality is a repentable and forgivable sin!

  22. Allen December 20, 2013 / 4:40 AM

    First of the comment about how Jesus did not mock their behaviors. Well Phil is not Jesus. And he knows that. Duh. And to judge him as such would be ridiculous. We are all sinners and Phil knows this as well. I like a lot of the posts and videos I have read and viewed since this started. Probably the best one being that if you don’t want to know how someone feels about it then basically don’t ask. As far as sin. All sins are equal regardless of what type of sin. They are all equal in the eyes of The Lord. Your comment about him acting un Christ like is just but this falls back to we are sinners. Only and I mean only Jesus Christ was without sin. So to persecute Phil for not being someone who he has not claimed to be. Look more into forgiveness than judgement of another persons words. As far as A&E, they wanted the Robertson family for their network. Not the other way around. They did not goto Hollywood and say ‘Hey we want a tv show about us.’ A&E should be thankful that the Robertson family did not hang it up after editors were adding fake censors during conversations to make the family look as though they were using profanity. Take with a grain of salt as tomorrow will bring another issue at hand for people to complain about.

  23. Lee December 20, 2013 / 7:40 AM

    Great article. This whole situation is a sad example of just how far the church in America has drifted from the teaching of Jesus.

  24. Adam December 20, 2013 / 9:26 AM

    I believe after all that was said here that the fact of the matter is nomatter how you put it truth hurts and nobody likes it and one to argue what was truthfully spoken or therfore say it was not respectfully spoken is just simpliy covering themselves from being willing to except what is right and true in the eyes of God remember the saying in God we trust, it is ignorance at its best our country is so afraid to face themselves that we now make laws to cover peoples laziness of haveing to do so

  25. FindingMe December 20, 2013 / 9:41 AM

    I personally feel his remarks about a “vagina” are solely his own feelings…not based on Christian Scripture.–which he is entitled too. He is not singling out one person or belittling them. Rather, it seems as though he might even be seeking an answer as to why men would chose another man to have sex with rather than a woman. However, his other remarks are founded on Scripture.

  26. Arthur December 20, 2013 / 10:41 AM

    Thank you Mr Marcy for your insight, I hadn’t viewed the issue in that light.

    Some of Phil’s words probably were unnecessarily offensive and A&E’s response is fairly toothless (he is currently suspended from filming a show that has largely already been filmed).

    What bothers me is that he was asked his beliefs, stated them and was then chastised for having those beliefs. If a prominent gay activist or Muslim were asked their beliefs in GQ, I would hardly be surprised if I found some of their beliefs offensive. It is the intolerance of contrary beliefs and the call for immediate punitive action that I find far more offensive.

    Thanks for giving me something to think about.

    • Eric Marcy December 20, 2013 / 11:17 AM

      Arthur, thank you for your thoughtful response! I have to say, that has been something I have been wrestling with since I posted this article (I confess, had I known how this post would take off, I might have thought through the entire issue more thoroughly and tried to address some of this) because you raise a good point. Unfortunately, you’re right; the world’s system isn’t always fair in its treatment of Christian beliefs and principles. I tend to believe, though, that the way in which we speak truth is inextricably linked to the truth itself. Like I said in the article, had he simply paraphrased Scripture, explaining his belief that true marriage, according to his faith, is between a man and a woman, I would be writing quite a different post right now. Unfortunately, because I think the form that parts of his comments took contradicts the heart of the Gospel he professes to hold, I can’t defend him in good conscience. I think we as Christians should choose our battles, and save our defense for when someone is truly being persecuted unfairly, rather than (as you pointed out) being weakly disciplined for some possibly offensive remarks.
      Please comment again if you’d like to discuss this further! All the best!

  27. Bob Miskimen December 20, 2013 / 10:54 AM

    Eric, we can’t use the GQ article as a fair and balanced review of “discussions with Phil”. It is quite sensationalized and meant to draw flack. Later in the article Phil says: “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

    Read More http://www.gq.com/entertainment/television/201401/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson#ixzz2o1y0kxxp

    Does not this sound like what we should be guarding our hearts against sin. Too many Christians are afraid to be convicting. Well, sometimes it might save a falling man. If you didn’t would you be as worthy? Christ did it to the Pharisees, but he did it to focus the object of His love on her sin as well. Let him who has not sinned, cast the first stone.

    • Eric Marcy December 20, 2013 / 12:43 PM

      I agree with most all you said, and thank you for posting a link to the entire article! I simply believe that the anatomical discussion he added to his Scriptural paraphrasing was not a wise choice of words that simply adds fuel to an already heated and controversial discussion. There is a proper place and form for conviction. I simply believe this was not the proper method of speaking truth. All the best!

  28. Chris December 20, 2013 / 11:42 AM

    So, you’re claiming to be a Christian who believes in the gospel, grace, and Jesus Christ, yet you refuse to stand with another believer because he sinned? Are you unable to actually extend grace and forgiveness to him, or do you expect perfection from your fellow believers? How deeply has the grace of Christ really penetrated into your heart?

    • Eric Marcy December 20, 2013 / 12:37 PM

      I simply refuse to stand with him in support of these particular comments. As a brother in Christ, I will support him in my prayers, but I can’t publicly support these remarks as many Christians have. I would certainly extend grace and forgiveness to him personally! But that does not mean I will support what he’s done that I disagree with. I don’t expect perfection from fellow Christians, but I would have hoped for a bit more tact from a public figure on such a touchy subject. God bless!

  29. Michael Mays (@WHEELS_64) December 20, 2013 / 12:06 PM

    “It has happened again. The social media world has blown up, dividing the country between those standing with Phil Robertson of “Duck Dynasty” fame, and those backing up A&E in their disciplining of him for his comments on homosexuality.”

    You start off this rant by feeding into the frenzy yourself! You are trying to divide Christians down the middle by stating your disdain for Phil Robertson! You are being more judgmental than you are accusing him of being. You have effectively thrown a Christian man into the lions den by taking his opinions, phrases and words spoken to a reporter, completely out of context!

    Then near the end of your public bashing of Phil, you say “I find myself sympathizing with A&E for disciplining him for his comments”. Finally after all your judging and calling Phil out to be a horrible Christian example, you conclude by saying we should be more Christ like to find a better way to reach the homosexual community.

    “If anything, there has to be a more effective method than loudly supporting a reality TV star who spoke in such an unbridled and offensive manner”.

    You admonished a fellow Christian publicly. Certainly NOT Christ like… Maybe you should have reached out to Phil Robertson in private? Just my opinion.

  30. amanda December 20, 2013 / 12:25 PM

    “When Christ visited and ate with the prostitutes, the tax collectors, the adulterers and the rejected of society, He certainly did tell them to “sin no more”. But did He ever vulgarly mock their behavior, belittle them as “illogical”?”
    My response to this: in human form Jesus is perfect. He had no sin. Us as human beings are born with sin because of Adam and Eve. So instead of you focusing on his sin and ranting and raving about it, take the plank out of your eye before trying to get the speck out of his. Because every sin is the same in Gods eyes. If I were you I would be more worried about my sin instead of someone else’s and getting my life right. Everybody is entitled to there own opinion and will, it is how we use it towards others that makes the difference.

  31. jerry winstead December 20, 2013 / 1:07 PM

    though you think his words were harsh, they are non the less true. I agree with Phil.

  32. Courtney December 20, 2013 / 1:26 PM

    Whether I agree with Phil Robertson or not I really feel the writer of the original GQ article set the tone for it and included so much of his own thoughts that he swayed many readers. Ex: “he looks just off to the side of you, as if Jesus were standing nearby, holding a stack of cue cards.” A writer holds a great deal of power. No one has considered this. He could have shown this was Phil’s opinion and that he wasn’t attacking others. He chose not to because he has that power as a writer.
    As a writer of Christian pieces and a journalist, you can made a story sound how you want it and you can make a person look how you want them. The article describes them in a very relaxed setting and around his family…this writer set this up to make him look like a bad person. Now, were his comments a little over the top? Yes. Was that expected of him as a person after reading the books and seeing the shows? Yes. But this writer has really played a huge hand in creating the controversy and stirring the pot. He sold a lot of magazines and he told the GQ readership just what they wanted to hear.

  33. chuck morton December 20, 2013 / 3:59 PM

    I believe that Phils intent was good, but he could of used better word selection.Most of us are aware that Phil is a bit rough around the edges and speaks his mind openly… we could all use a lesson in thinking before we speak.
    The division among Christians should not be in discussing the merits or lack of merit in Phils delivery, but on wheather or not his basic intent is correct. lets us all stay on point…. this conversation can and should include Phils word selection, but the emphasis should be on the fact that Phil is 100 percent correct in his original intent (homosexuality is wrong) and with that i hope that most Christians can agree……..

  34. Joel Thomas December 20, 2013 / 4:06 PM

    Eric! You are an awesome writer. I’m glad this article has blown up! 4k Shares on FB alone! thats amazing!

  35. Irv Spielberg December 20, 2013 / 4:47 PM

    Jesus predicted that just before His return as Judge, there will be a strange, dangerous fad – a spontaneous global steamroller notable for its speed, violence, and impudent in-your-face openness. In Luke 17 He called this worldwide craze the repeat of the “days of Lot” (see Genesis 19). By fulfilling this worldwide mania that’s secretly coordinated by unseen spirit beings, gays are really hurrying up Christ’s return and making the Bible even more believable!
    They’ve actually invented strange architecture: closets opening not on to bedrooms but on to Main Streets where kids can see naked men having sex in “Madam” Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco Brothel District. We wonder how soon S.F.’s underground saint – San Andreas – will get a 10-point jolt out of what goes on over his head (see the dire prediction about cities in Revelation 16:19, and Google “Obama Supports Public Depravity”).
    What’s really scary is the “reprobate mind” phrase in Romans 1:28. A person can sear his conscience so much that God finally turns him over to S, the universal evil leader whose unseen agents can give a “possessed” person super-human strength that many cops with tasers have trouble subduing!
    Remember, gays don’t have to stay bound to their slavery. Their emancipation is found in a 5-letter name starting with J – no, not James or Julia. As soon as they can find out the all-powerful J name, gays will really start living! (Google “God to Same-Sexers: Hurry Up,” “USA – from Puritans to Impure-itans,” and “The Background Obama Can’t Cover Up.”)
    Was Jesus silent about gays? Google ” ‘Jesus Never Mentioned Homosexuality.’ When gays have birthdays….”

    / Preceding piece was seen lately on the net. Reactions, anyone? /

  36. Sabrina December 20, 2013 / 5:07 PM

    I personally disagree with your perspective! In fact, I think there is a new perspective that should be presented as I am sure you forgot to mention. Christians are suppose to thrive to be Christ-like… but are they Christ? Are they not sinners? Are they imperfect? Also ask this, aren’t all individuals, Christians or not, have different personalities than others. Some Bold and others reserve. Some to the point, and others timid to reach one. Not only is Phil a christian man, but its easy to prosecute him as tho he is Christ himself. And he inst Christ, so when he speaks out, rather its offensive or not, it is possible to be judged. Fact is, we all judge, christian or not, even when it isn’t our place to do it. Yes many Christians are very firm in their beliefs about the sins of this world, such as adultery and homosexuality, murder and theft. God states in the bible that no sin is any greater than another, but as human-beings its easy for us to rate these sins on a grading scale. Because some have severe consequences if caught in the act. We no longer stone the prostitute, and the adulterer. Might arrest the prostitute but not in the way of a murderer. Government murders tons of people daily, and we do nothing about it, til its no one from the government killing our friends and children. Point is, things have changed. And if a gay man or woman can get on tv and speak offensively in their sitcoms, or actors can speak offensively in their movies or sitcoms, why can’t Phil speak as he chooses? Why… because he is judged everyday because he is in the spotlight as a christian. What we don’t give them credit for is how down to earth and real they are for wealthy people. People whose values haven’t changed just because A&E ask them to change them or suppose sinning. Yeah we all sin, but we all try to not sin. And so what if he says he doesn’t get why a man would choose a butt over a vagina… so what? Many gay men spent their many younger lives and adulthood trying to figure that out also. DUH its where “in the closet” term comes from. They don’t get it, confused, and ashamed. Until they decide they are no longer ashamed, or figure out why they feel that way and want that… that is no different than a straight man not getting it either.

    My main perspective is… Phil is human, who makes mistakes just like everyone else, who say things he may regret later, or might say them wrong, as we all do. Who has been in a marriage or relationship (hetero or homo) and your partner was trying to say something, but said it completely wrong and it hurt you. But after much discussing, realize it was presented wrong and clarification was found. Well I say as Christians, forgive him if you were offended, and move on. Let him move on. I say if it really offended you, stop DVRing the show. HOW about… instead of using examples about “if we talked to our gay friends scenarios” what if you first person it, and you yourself said something inappropriate, or in your mind wasn’t bad, but (as we know we all have different minds and different views) others took it badly… Would you want it to define your Christianity (you know that commitment you made to god alone, not everyone else) Yes we should be more Christ-like, yes we should be more gracious and salty. But Christians make mistakes, and as we thrive and fall on occasion, god will be there to pick up us, dust us off, forgive us when confessed, and guess what… WHAT?!?! WE will still be Christians. (rolls eyes) It doesn’t stop just because we hurt someones feelings about speaking boldly about a sin we don’t agree on. We are allowed to speak boldly because guess what.. our government (not god) gave us that right. It always says in the bible to follow mans laws. Hmm so much can be mislead and changed around to fit your perspective and mine, and A&E and some Random Joe dirt’s Living room.

    LAST POINT: Phil is a human, just trying to spread gods word and the blessings he has gotten to the best of his abilities. And since God made only one perfect being… Phil gets to mess up on occasion and still be a very good christian. I say the Robertson should just let A&E go for being too picky and making this to be a bit more than it should be.

  37. CHELLE December 20, 2013 / 5:13 PM

    Well to this day, my daughter is Gay. If you ask me how I feel about it, I would simply say that I don’t and will not ever agree with it. My Christian belief is that people of the same sex do not indulge in sexual relations. Even though she is my daughter and I love her no less, she knows that I do not and will never approve of her being Gay. If that makes me wrong, than I will just have to be wrong. I somewhat blame the media on this one because out of all things to ask Phil, they ask him about homosexuality but when he honestly voiced his own opinion on the matter he was crucified for it. Are we a country of Freedom of Speech or not.

  38. Shannon December 20, 2013 / 6:08 PM

    Eric, thank you for expressing your thoughts on this controvery. It is refreshing to know that there are those see through his comments. As offensive as I found the GQ article to be, I watched a video of Phil at a wild game dinner in 2010 and that topped the cake. There is nothing loving in his tone or speech as he now suggests. As Jess responded and you made the point, this whole mess will do nothing but drive the lost further away from God. The only word I can find to describe it is SAD!

    • Sabrina December 21, 2013 / 3:23 AM

      Have you never acted out inappropriately in public before? (fact is, this interview was an interview, which means it could have been written a bit more harshly than it really was also) There are alot of moments in our lives we have all been SAD! Before you point fingers at his sad moments.. try remembering yours! I don’t think you want america dictating your life or magnify your SAD moments as being something bigger than they are not. If you think his comments would solely turn heads from non-Christians from ever being a christian… think about what non-Christians do and say now?? So many non-Christians these days are more disrespectful and offensive than a christian man. If you can name a perfect person other than Jesus, hats off to you for calling on him about his sucky moments. But unless you plan on airing your SAD moments for us to judge and criticize, should you have the right to do so about him? or what… its just your OPINION?? Your right to have free speech??? or wait… You can say what you want as long as its not offensive… except it offended me. If someone is LOST… don’t you dare ever blame another christian for a lost souls walk with god! That is for the LOST to deal with. Now if others like you want to make excuses for wanting to keep distant from GOD and not choose a walk with him at this moment… don’t start blaming others. One mistake a LOST person makes.. is believing that a christian should be perfect, and since they aren’t, I don’t want anything to do with god because of it. I rather know that since GOD loves Phil… imperfect and all… then I know GOD will love my LOST soul… Thats what we as christians try to express to those that are LOST…. its not an act of perfection. It will never be accomplished. But Jesus died on the cross for OUR SINS. HE LOVES US NO MATTER the sin. He will hold our hearts if we ask it of him. Yes as Christians we need to walk the walk and talk the talk… but sometimes our talk… isn’t perfect. And for anyone to demand it, or say (well he is on tv, he should know better) That doesnt matter, all that means is you get to catch his mistakes. If anything.. people should humble themselves and acknowledge that hey… ive told bad jokes, made inappropriate comments, ive blurted out my views on someone that didnt want to hear them.. at some point of our lives. I say get off your high horse, and fall to your knees, and remember its gods place to judge our SAD moments in our lives.

  39. Stephen December 20, 2013 / 6:45 PM

    So which other word would’ve you preferred a 67 year old man to use other than vagina? I’m pretty sure he used the right word.

  40. Sam B December 20, 2013 / 11:28 PM

    Hey Eric, was wondering if you could post exact article where he actually used the words that you are saying that he used? If you aren’t comfortable posting it, then a link maybe? Or just email me?

    • Shannon December 21, 2013 / 10:58 AM

      Sam, I just googled it and went straight to the GQ article, not the stories about the article.

  41. Laura Homes December 21, 2013 / 12:05 AM

    God said that homosexuality is an abomination do you think that a gay person might take offence. You think the pherasies thoight it offensive wjen he called them a brood of vipers. Yes phil could have been more tactful he spoke Gods truth it is not always easy to hear
    man will reap what he sowes both good and bad God will carry out justice he tells us what will happen t
    o us hewe reject him God is love but He is all so Judge we Christian are to speak the whole truth of his word ..BeBlessed

  42. William Nunley December 21, 2013 / 12:16 AM

    Note that the Bible also says that there is only one judge and that’s God himself. We as Chrisitians do not have the right to judge homosexuals for their beliefs or Phil for what he said. Both sides are judging each other, not finding a solution.

  43. Brooke December 21, 2013 / 4:01 AM

    This whole thing shocks me in the fact that Duck Dynasty is a show centered upon a group of fun loving people who are grounded in Christian beliefs (as seen with every episode ending in prayer), yet, the LGBT community are up in arms over Phil Robertson’s statements when it knows full well that the show is based on their Christian beliefs so in turn couldn’t possibly even watch the show. The LGBT community has only been touched by this show because of a secular magazine publishing an article regarding their beliefs and lifestyle.
    That being said, I see no offense made with the comments that this man made. Anyone can plainly read his words and see he had no words of hate just of personally not understanding why a person would live a lifestyle that is contrary to what The Bible says to be a sinful nature. When the man said it isn’t “logical” to him I imagine that’s all that he meant by that. He just simply doesn’t understand why. He only personally answers to a Higher power and His word, God. And The Bible which is God breathed simply states that lifestyle is of a sinful nature. I imagine the reason he left his sinful nature is because he realized once he began walking along with The Lord his own sinful nature was no longer logical to him! Why do people have to be so quick to judge this man and his beliefs and even in the purest of all, his words?? I see nothing wrong with what he said. He said what he said and it’s his belief and be is every right to it. The problem is this world has become desensitized to what is simply right and true. And everyone has to tiptoe around what they truly believe because someone, somewhere will be offended because they don’t believe the same way.
    I find a great point in a story I read a while back where an atheist monument was erected in a very public platform. I was saddened by the news of such a monument but I didn’t go to the local news with the argument I didn’t think it was acceptable because it did not align with my beliefs and it’s was a blatant disrespect to personal Lord and Savior! But again, just another example of double standards.
    I just don’t understand this backlash. First being the group causing this outrage doesn’t even watch the show, I guarantee it, because of the Christian base of it. Second, this is his right to speak about his own personal convictions. And lastly, I want to stress my fist point in my comment, the “logical” comment only means it’s not logical to him just like when he began following The Lord he also changed his sinful nature because it was no longer “logical” to him. Because his logic became God’s logic.
    Please fellow Christian’s understand we are to stand with our brothers and sisters in Christ not to find fault or even try to understand what he meant. All that matters is he stood up for the word of God. Isn’t that what all of us are supposed to be doing?? There are many people who die daily defending the truth of The Word of God. And I bet these blessed people do leave parts out or sugarcoat what they say. The truth is the truth.

    • Rather Concerned December 24, 2013 / 1:48 AM

      One thing I’d like to point out here is your comment about the LGBT community and Christian values. Many who define themselves as gay, bisexual, transsexual, or the many other terms under the LGBT group ARE Christians. Though I personally do not believe homosexuality to be a sin, for those of you who do, many make the assumption that this means homosexual citizens could not possibly be Christians. Take into account that many gay individuals have Christian values and raise families with these values. Mr. Robertson’s comments are not any more offensive than the comments I’ve read under this article today and that’s what concerns me about society. The views held against homosexuals are what push them away from Christianity in the first place. Perhaps if our communities were a little more loving and Christianity from the start, this rift in our society would have the possibility of mending. But until we can learn to accept those members of society as they are, the arguments and verbal wars will continue. Perhaps if Christianity became as loving and accepting as Jesus was of those who were looked down upon in society the world would be a much better place.

  44. Brooke December 21, 2013 / 4:04 AM

    Don’t leave out parts.*

  45. Jason December 21, 2013 / 8:00 AM

    People including you that sugar coat sin and think “oh well, love the sinner, hate the sin” should remember Sodom and Gomorrah. Though we are covered by grace we must confess our sins and change. True grace will bring about change in our lives if it doesn’t it was not. When you side with these people you are just as guilty as the people committing the sin. So needless to say you will be lumped with the homosexuals and the sexually deviant when you are judged!

  46. Eve December 21, 2013 / 8:08 AM

    I’m hearing what you’re saying and am totally getting your point; however, I think it also must be considered that we don’t know the line of questioning that led up to Phil’s response. The reporter was clearly antagonistic and was certainly looking for a sensational headline. It’s only reasonable to assume he asked leading questions to get Phil on the topic. Without knowing the whole conversation, I find it too difficult to judge him harshly because that particular comment is crass.

  47. Alex December 21, 2013 / 9:28 AM

    God tells us to spread His Word too warn the wicked of their way read Ezekiel 33 it talks about setting us as a watchman and warn the People and if we don’t warn them then there blood will be on our hand and if we do warn them it’s going to be on them if they don’t listen! Not offensive. He spoke exactly what the Bible says in 1 Corithians chapter 6. Gods word is 100% true. Christians these days try to sugar coat Gods word. Phil didn’t sugar coat it. I stand with him.

  48. Stefanie December 21, 2013 / 9:56 AM

    You say, “When Christians rally in defense of an entertainer speaking disrespectfully and derisively of others, we are saying to the world “look at us, we are no different than the hateful and bigoted masses”.

    But don’t you sound hateful? Against your own brother? Phil Robertson might be an entertainer, but he is first and foremost a follower of Christ. Your lack of love is showing.

    John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

  49. dmhavener December 21, 2013 / 10:47 AM

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  50. Gabe December 21, 2013 / 10:48 AM

    I can assure you that if I had said what Phil said, (assuming I had the same forum with which to say it) I would be fired from my job in a heartbeat, as I should be. I work for a public company in finance, and I would be a liability. I wouldn’t have, and wouldn’t expect to have, any recourse. I certainly wouldn’t expect a constitutional protection from being fired. I would also be fired if I was giving an equally crude take on some of the more controversial stances of other well know religions. I’m not sure why an actor on a faux reality show should receive preferential treatment. Btw, I’m a Christian.

  51. usnagrad1988 December 21, 2013 / 11:13 AM

    Nice long-winded response filled with truth, but A&E should not suspend Phil in definately. I agree that a small part of his overall comments were offensive but we are on a slippery slope in America, where the gay agenda is forcing itself on Christians. Jesus also spoke very harshly to the Pharisees and leaders of the day about their sin. I know they were religious leaders but there are churches that are taking scripture out of context and accepting sin in the church versus discipline and calling sin, sin, whether it’s adultery or homosexuality.

  52. Dev. December 21, 2013 / 1:18 PM

    I agree with you on most of the points that you made, but the Christian community is not the only ones trying to stand with Phil. The main issue in a lot of peoples eyes is the simple fact that he stated his opinion and was punished for it, last I checked we have the freedom of speech, not the right to never get offended about someone’s comments. That is where this country is flawed, we have the freedom to say whatever we want, yet we persecute all who offend us. If people don’t like what Phil said, then don’t watch the show, there is no need to punish a man with freedom of speech.

  53. Bob Wagner December 21, 2013 / 1:19 PM

    You asked your readers: “When Christ visited and ate with the prostitutes, the tax collectors, the adulterers and the rejected of society, He certainly did tell them to “sin no more”. But did He ever vulgarly mock their behavior, belittle them as “illogical”?”

    Excuse me but didn’t Jesus referred to those opposing him and his beliefs as Liars, Fools, Hypocrites, White Washed tombs, Brood of Vipers, Serpents and dead mens bones?

    I think Phil Robertson made a very Christ like statement.

  54. Loran December 21, 2013 / 2:35 PM

    Context Eric, context. What was the question asked Phil? What is off limits to talk about on the SHOW. That’s it. So simple. You are over analyzing his Christianity , did he answer the question? Was he disrespectful? Or simply honest ?

  55. Marshall Allen December 21, 2013 / 2:41 PM

    What? As a “Bible-believing Christian” I think it would be pretty obivous that Jesus wasn’t alway the gentlest of people. Jesus hurt people’s feelings. Christianity shouldn’t be about compromising what’s right for what makes everybody all get along. I’m not saying hate them; just don’t let them think that how they’re acting is ok. What hurts more? -telling people that they’re sinners and that they need grace? -or just being friendly and leting them live out their life until one day they die and go to hell?

    Really Christians don’t stay silent about sin.

  56. Barb December 21, 2013 / 4:02 PM

    This is why I can stand with Phil. Our culture is being bombarded with this behavior and as Christians we are asked to swallow it and shut up. And if we ever say anything about our beliefs in a school–it will be bullying, at a job, it will be sexual harassment, and in a magazine as an actor, you lose your job. This guy was asked specifically about this–he did not flaunt it or go looking for trouble. Standing up for truth has been replaced by hiding behind love. We are afraid, sadly. A & E has every right to do what they did–they are not believers, so whatever. We, as believers need to stand up for God’s truth–and will it offend? Most likely–it will also divide–Micah 7:6. As far as the crass and offensive wording–read Romans 1–it is expounding on “indecent acts”. God felt angered by these behaviors and destroyed 2 cities, but I guess God has changed? It is like abortion. No one wants to speak of the FACT that babies are torn limb from limb out of their mother’s warm, and supposedly, safe wombs and some get their skulls punctured and their brains sucked out. Sorry if this is crass and offends, but it is the truth. We are not to tolerate sin, but we are being made to. Even speaking it as such elicits anger in those who condone it–wow. I guess we all should just smile and nod. That way we won’t offend anyone or get into trouble by the media. Meanwhile, our culture continues down the slippery slope.

    • Vernon Hoover December 21, 2013 / 8:42 PM

      AMEN!….Where’s the ” Like” button?

  57. TheGreatZambini December 21, 2013 / 4:44 PM

    I think this was a beautiful post. I think that the bible says that homosexuality is wrong, and I`m a Christian who believes the bible is correct. But being crude and making fun of my friends will never gain you my support. I do have friends who are homosexual, who know that I think that acting on those feelings is wrong and that I think that those actions have nothing to do with the love and friendship we share. They stand up for me when rude homosexuals feel the need to call me nasty names because of my religious beliefs they don`t even follow themselves. Shouldn`t I do even better with the perfect example of Jesus to guide my decisions? How on Earth could I condone such meaness as a Christian, whose God said “Greatest of these [laws] is love”?

  58. Mike December 21, 2013 / 6:00 PM

    So you sympathize with A&E who knew his opinions, has heard him say similar things for years and was happy to make tons of cash off his gruffness until GLAAD made a stink?

  59. Vernon Hoover December 21, 2013 / 8:38 PM

    What he said is true. Do we really need to suger coat the truth for fear of letting people know where we stand? Ha was asked for his opinion, and he gave it. It doesn’t matter whether or not you agree with what he said or how he said it. It is still the truth. When we spend so much energy worrying about offending some one with the truth, the truth will be lost to suger coating holding back to avoid “offending”. Fact is, the guilty will always be “offended”when the truth gets too close to home.

  60. Savannah December 21, 2013 / 9:06 PM

    I really disagree with this. And here’s why.
    I don’t think that Phil’s words were mean or ill advised. If you watched the show for two seconds you would learn that, that’s the kind of guy he is. He just says it like it is.
    Secondly, I’m offended by what people say all the time. But guess what? This is America, and part of our freedom is getting to believe what we want and say what we want.
    I stand behind Phil because I’m a follower of Jesus. And I believe in freedom and freedom of speech.

  61. Susan December 21, 2013 / 11:08 PM

    I’m surprised – and yet not – that everyone is supporting Phil Robertson and his views on homosexuality and completely ignoring his views on civil rights. In the same interview, Mr Robertson said that black people were “godly and happy” prior to the civil rights movement, which he called “pre-welfare, pre-entitlement”. Blatantly racist statements ignored because Christianity remains intensely invested in sex and all of its accoutrements, rather than the deeper issue of the two great commandments given by Jesus Christ: love the Lord and love your neighbor.

  62. becky December 21, 2013 / 11:21 PM

    just makes you think why they take god outta our schools ,, maybe it would be a better place…just saying. i loved in school saying a prayer and pledging the flag,, seems it all went to crap when the ,,well dontknow who did it but took jesus outta school , well it was wrong

  63. Cohlby Sims December 21, 2013 / 11:37 PM

    Homosexuality is a sin. Phil was right about everything he said.. A man should desire a vagina not a mans anus. It is completely wrong and absolutely disgusting. If you don’t abide by that, you are not a Chrsitian and should burn in hell eternally. End of story. Homosexuality is wrong, nothing about it is right and never will be, no matter how much society is starting to accept it. It is written in The word of God and that is the scripture you follow to live like God.

  64. Anthony Johnson December 22, 2013 / 12:57 AM

    While I understand your point and agree some I still believe in calling it like you see it. It is what it is. Everyone outside the christian environment thinks that because a Christian responds or objects to sin, and actually calls it what it is instead of sugar coating it, that we are wrong and want to condemn us and say we are no better than them. There are some “Christians” that kinda go too far sometimes but for you to say that you can’t defend him is wrong, in my opinion. When are Christian people who have strong moral values stand up and call right and wrong what it is? A&E only had the Robertson’s on there because of money, plain and simple. Let’s call it what it is. The problem is no one wants to hear the truth. Everyone is sugar coating everything so they won’t offend anyone. Where is your backbone? When you find it then write an article that’s worthy of reading. Just saying. 🙂

  65. Nathan Isbell December 22, 2013 / 1:54 AM

    Many of you have great views on showing the love of Christ to homosexuals, I don’t think being gay should hold you back from the joys of the Christian faith and the love of God. On the other hand giving a homosexual a bible will not magically “fix” them. I myself am a gay Christian, I have accepted Christ as my lord and savior but I still remain gay and have always been that way.

    • Jane Doe December 24, 2013 / 1:54 AM

      I am very glad you commented on this. Many tend to overlook gay Christians as they believe it’s basically impossible for that to happen. I believe love is love and should be accepted and not simply tolerated. Glad there’s at least one other person out there that read this and agrees.

  66. Darth Sidious December 22, 2013 / 10:39 AM

    The funny thing is that vulgarity does express A&E’s views. They have there major Twerking, share holder Disney to please.

  67. Michael December 22, 2013 / 10:42 AM

    ummmm, just one second there compadre. There is one critical factor missing here: Phil’s comments during the interview, with a microphone under his chin, were >spontaneous<. To be sure: Rough, course, admittedly so by him, his family and all who stand with him, BUT spontaneous and from the heart. No doubt, given the opportunity, he will be less course next time, now that he's reflected on it. Isn't authentic love supposed to be expressed from the heart and in a spontaneous manner? Okay, now we have a picture of Phil's heart! In contrast, this article, of which you have had DAYS to think about and reflect on, is not at all spontaneous. You have had plenty of time to even think about writing this article and criticizing Phil – easy, easy to do. The article was NOT expressed from the heart in a spontaneous way. It takes a weak-kneed coward to criticize someone else who expressed a spontaneous feeling from the heart – and even attempted to steady himself – and then to write such a self righteous article days later, alone, and behind the comfort of a computer. PFFFFT!

  68. Michael Fritz December 22, 2013 / 5:13 PM

    I do not agree with the language Phil used but I defend his right to use it.

  69. Luallen December 22, 2013 / 9:01 PM

    This is where he went wrong. I completely agree homosexuality is a sin but his job is to entertain. He does well, duck dynasty is a number 1 A&E show. But he broke his contract. People freak out but he simply broke the rules and is being punished for it. Like anyone else would be. I’m in the military. If I went out and got wasted ignoring the fact it is a sin, I would be relieved from naval service. People are getting but hurt. He made a decision and is being punished. It’s not like he’s being a martyr or anything and even though he’s fired, I guarantee he still has about millions of dollars more then any of you. He’s “happy happy happy”. No doubt about it.

  70. Katelyn December 22, 2013 / 10:58 PM

    Very well said, I definitely understand where you’re coming from. Christian to Christian I respect your opinion and even agree with some of it. However, in this case I DO support Phil Robertson. I’m a firm believer in the constitution! Yes, his comment was very vulgar and unfiltered but they were nothing short of the truth. I’m from the south like him and it only makes sense for a man to desire a woman but I understand that’s not always the case. I will never judge someone because they sin differently than me but I believe it is our jobs as Christians to tell the word with the truth! We can’t sugar coat things because we’re afraid of offending someone. It’s America, we live in the land of the FREE. Freedom of religion and freedom of speech I both strongly believe in. Honestly, they shouldn’t have asked him the question of they didn’t want it honestly answered. I would understand if the comment was made on the show (since it’s a family show) but it wasn’t. He could’ve chose his words more wisely but the truths the truth. Everything happens for a reason. I just had to say that I do stand behind the Robertson’s and I hope everyone reading this will join me in prayer regarding the Robertson’s and A&E. I truly hope they work something out because it’s a great family show that shows prayer, love, and respect! That is my opinion short, sweet, and to the point! All I have left to say is God Bless and Merica! May God bless everyone!

    Love, Katelyn Johnson.

  71. Daniel December 22, 2013 / 11:32 PM

    since you are not gay you will never know what its like. it has nothing to do with wanting to be this way. I’m not gay by choice. trust me, with all the hell i go through, if i could decide to like the opposite sex i totally would. but i love being gay, and i love my husband. and we attend church every sunday at a very gay-fiendly church

    • FLY December 23, 2013 / 12:42 AM

      Bless you my friend for finding a church and doing the best with your situation. Obviously you have a strong heart and spirit.

  72. Cassandra December 22, 2013 / 11:45 PM

    Amen. and Amen.

  73. FLY December 23, 2013 / 12:38 AM

    Thank you for the most clearly articulated article on the subject I have yet found. Your thoughts represent mine nearly identically… as well as, I would hope, the entire Christian community. And I’d also hope, anyone with a heartbeat.

  74. Natasha December 23, 2013 / 12:39 AM

    It may be offensive, but since when is offending someone agenst the law? They knew of his personal beliefs before interviewing him (the family is openly christian) and they still tried to pin him with that question. What kind of answer did they expect. Regardless of if you support homosexuality or not, this man was fired because he practiced the freedom of speech and revealed his religious beliefs. (How was he fired?) he was paied to be on the show and is now kicked off it. Yeah thats also agenst the law. Case closed. It does not matter what he was supporting or agenst. The important issue is that you can now be fired in a way that is agenst the constitution and the 1st Ammemdment. Good job america, you did it again, you failed…

  75. TJ December 23, 2013 / 4:01 AM

    Sticks and stones man, sticks and stones. Everybody gets so worked up over words spoken by celebrities that they forget about all of the unnecessary violence in the world.

  76. pastor jackie December 23, 2013 / 8:50 AM

    i am standing with duck dynasty i believe the same them if a&e take duck dynasty i will stop watching a&e

  77. Susan December 23, 2013 / 10:19 AM

    The way I see it is this: you are saying the same thing, but in a different way…….nevertheless, you are offending homosexuals……not a lot of difference in my opinion…….they wouldn’t care too much for you either……you need to read your own words…….by the way, I am a Christian.

  78. JJ December 23, 2013 / 9:37 PM

    The media/press prey on issues like this for entertainment for little worms like you all. The lgbt looks for reason to fight for there ( in your face cause). Phil has a valid opinion or quotes and take it or leave it. Your the one that has to die when its your time. And for the record , even animals know what they are suppose to mate with.

    • Jane Doe December 24, 2013 / 2:01 AM

      Okay. 1) The LGBT has every reason to look for a fight as they are attempting to accomplish equal marriage rights for all citizens. 2) Some animals actually mate with the same gender if you want to get the facts right. Let’s let others love who they want to and not judge them for it as it is NOT our place to.

  79. Dan December 23, 2013 / 11:33 PM

    My problem isn’t with his beliefs or how he said it… My problem is he has been called every name in the book… And you don’t see those people getting in trouble or loosing there jobs… You see people calling the rest of us ignorate and stupid cause we don’t see it their way… They have marched, fought, yelled, and protested to the point of fights… And nothing is said or done… But one man… One guy… Says something that may have been out of line and he gets thrown under the bus… I for one stand for him not cause of what or how he believes it but for the fact that he has the right to believe it and express it… Some where it has to stop… And that’s what I believe is worth standing for… If he had been gay and fussing about straights this would have never made the news… But that’s just my two cents…

  80. jake December 24, 2013 / 11:48 AM

    How are we suppises to give them the good news about Jesus when it says in the bible that when a man lays with another man they are to be stoned. Of course Jesus will forgive them of their sins but they have to change their ways first. Im southern baptist and im not a big fan of homosexuality and I honestly dont see what so wrong with what Phil said.

  81. Linda December 28, 2013 / 10:40 PM

    I completely agree that how Phil worded his thoughts were wrong, but I honestly believe despite his wrong choice of words, he is trying in the best way possible to stand up for God. I chuckled a bit at a friend who made a comparison on how to talk about God’s view of being gay between a polished preacher who is used to being in the limelight and a self-proclaimed redneck who is doing his best (not perfect) dealing with the position he’s found himself in. Please don’t get me wrong, I am not condoning Phil’s choice of words, but I think we need to show some mercy where he’s concerned as well. I dare say God will use this situation in Phil’s life to realize how he says something as a Christian is just as important as what he says. I know the pressure to have to stand up before the nation and feel like you have to say and do everything right would be a lot to handle if I were in his shoes. I wouldn’t have said things he did ( I didn’t grow up in the back woods of LA), but I’m sure I wouldn’t have said things perfectly either and would hope that Christians could forgive me. I’m just saying, because he didn’t say things the way he should have, does not mean we ditch him and stop supporting him at a very vulnerable, public, and tough position God has allowed him to be in. I’d like to end by quoting another person, “…yes we are to denounce sin (all sin) but we are also to show grace and mercy to the sinner…” We’re all sinners. This applies to you, me and Phil too. Please, just pray for this family to stay close to God as they’re being put through a testing time with their lives being put on display against a world that wants nothing more than total destruction for having anything to do with God. We need to especially pray for Phil that he would use the platform God has given him with words fitly spoken so the world can see an amazing God! (btw, I truly am not saying any of this with a harsh tone, nor am I upset. I just hate to see Satan dividing Christians)

  82. ptrofie December 29, 2013 / 4:20 PM

    I guess I must be missing something. The words that Mr. Robertson used are not vulgar or coarse, in my honest opinion. If we go into a health class in elementary school, those same terms are being used. Vagina, anus, homosexual…these are not inappropriate or offensive terms. The only thing that could possibly be inappropriate in the statement Robertson made was suggesting homosexuality was not natural because it is a sin. Sorry, but that is exactly how homosexuality is described in Romans 1.

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